[CivicAccess-discuss] Cdn Standards Assoc (c) & cost recovery

Tracey P. Lauriault tlauriau at gmail.com
Thu May 19 03:10:02 AEST 2011


I think you will like the book I am reading:

*Standards and their Stories: How quantifying, classifying, and formalizing
practices shape everyday life* by Martha Lampland and Susan Leigh Star.  It
is a great book and fits nicely with my little infrastructure fetish.

It is also worth reading by uber standards geeks and formal ontology people,
as it gives standards a social life, instead of just this normalized
objective thing that we just do.

*2 books:*

Standards and their Stories:
http://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/cup_detail.taf?ti_id=5281
Sorting Things Out: Classification and its Consequences:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?tid=4003&ttype=2

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Karl Dubost <karl at la-grange.net> wrote:

>
> Le 18 mai 2011 à 12:29, Tracey P. Lauriault a écrit :
> > ISO material is just as costly and restrictive, odd, considering that
> contributions and standards development is done by volunteers.
>
> It depends, but ISO and other orgs are started to be challenged see the
> recent decision of UK.
>
> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/UK-government-open-standards-policy-in-international-dispute-1244652.html
>
>        The UK Government policy on open standards appears
>        to be placing them in direct conflict with
>        international standards organisations. The UK policy
>        is designed to level the playing field between
>        proprietary and open source software by requiring
>        only royalty free intellectual property be included
>        in standards referenced for government procurement.
>
>
> > For standards to be unbiased, there needs to be some sort of arms length
> from gov and industry, while in the end, standards are created by those at
> the table, which are primariy gov and industry.
>
> Standards to be unbiased need to be implemented. There are not perfect
> things. The most important point is that the people who have a practical
> stake into it need to be involved and reach a consensus. Something which is
> only gov policies and no deployments in industry is a failed standard.
> Something which takes care only of corporate interests is also a failed
> standard.  Standards are hard. ISO (and other type of similar orgs) have a
> strong record of producing monsters which are not implemented and covered by
> patents.
>
> Organizations such as W3C have free specifications, a clear royality-free
> patent policy, and an open participation process.
> Not sure some of you are familiar with activities around egov at W3C.
> http://www.w3.org/egov/
>
>
> Disclaimer: I have been part of the staff of W3C from 2000 to 2008. And I'm
> working now for Opera Software, a browser implementer
> http://www.opera.com/ which is directly involved in W3C.
>
> --
> Karl Dubost
> Montréal, QC, Canada
> http://www.la-grange.net/karl/
>
>


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613-234-2805
http://traceyplauriault.ca/
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