[CivicAccess-discuss] City list of provider: should it be open?

James McKinney james at opennorth.ca
Fri May 10 03:47:36 AEST 2013


Wow, I was considering sending an ATI request to get the list of providers. I guess I can expect a "No"? However, the reason you explain below doesn't fall into any of the standard exemptions to ATI requests, so it may still be possible to get the list. Frankly, I think the reason isn't a good one - the construction companies already know each other. I think publishing the list would make it easier for watchdogs (who are less familiar with those companies) to more effectively research potential collusion.

Canada provides a list on its data catalog: https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/standing-offers-and-supply-arrangements

James


On 2013-05-09, at 12:45 PM, Stéphane Guidoin wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I would like to submit a case to the wisdom of the list here :)
> 
> As you probably know, Montreal (and Québec in general) is struggling
> with some corruption issue. As an effort to push govs to be more
> "agressive" on the topic, Quebec Ouvert organized a hackathon about
> corruption few months ago, asking govs to open data that can help find
> corruption cases: contract attributions, etc.
> 
> One of the request for the City of Montreal was the list of the
> registered providers. I guess it is the same in other place, but in
> order to get some business from the city, you have to be registered as a
> provider. When the City is doing some invitation-based call for tender
> (between 25 and 100 k$ I think), they do the invitation based on this
> list. For open call for tenders (100k$+), you have to be registered to
> submit.
> 
> The request to publish this registry was rejected recently. Reason: it
> would ease collusion. If, as a mafiosi-sidewalk builder I can see who
> else is registered in the same category as me, it eases my work to reach
> out all the other providers and set up a collusion/cartel schema.
> 
> Do you agree with this reason? Does anybody knows some cities that
> provider registered provider list?  Comments?
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
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