[CivicAccess-discuss] City list of provider: should it be open?

[James McKinney]

That data is scraped by OpenCorporates: http://opencorporates.com/companies/ca

For example, for Open North: http://opencorporates.com/companies/ca/7863063

OpenCorporates has an API: http://api.opencorporates.com/documentation/Home

Obviously, it would be better if this didn't require scraping.

James

On 2013-05-09, at 3:04 PM, Glen Newton wrote:

>>> - make it easier to dig through shell companies at Industry Canada
>> 
>> how? :)
> 
> I want this data to be open,
> http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/cd-dgc.nsf/eng/Home either as an API (not
> really) or a database dump download.
> 
> Then anyone can analyse patterns of ownership among individuals,
> families, addresses and build the social network of the
> companies/people/families, apps, etc.
> 
> -glen
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Karl Dubost <karl at la-grange.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Le 9 mai 2013 à 14:27, Glen Newton a écrit :
>>> The argument is vacuous. If the criminals want to know, they
>>> will find out.
>> 
>> Probably, they have the network, the tools, the power and maybe a higher flexibility in their social infrastructure. (not sure about that, just guessing)
>> 
>> 
>>> Open it up for all to (equally) see and collusion should be harder.
>>> - make sure when someone opens up a new construction company and is
>>> harassed/threatened/murdered by their criminal competitors, that the
>>> police et al. take it seriously.
>> 
>> 
>> Hmm consequences. The "make sure" implies "human resources", "capacity of processing", etc. :) I say hurrah for the idea, but I also think not that easy to put in place. Civil society is less flexible than its competitor, the mafia society.
>> 
>> 
>>> - make it easier to dig through shell companies at Industry Canada
>> 
>> how? :)
>> 
>> 
>>> - make it easier to see how many companies a person has created over
>>> time (Industry Canada), to see patterns of abuse.
>> 
>> 
>> Could help to reveal bad patterns. Would it destroy things that are reachable but not necessary exposed. I don't know, just wondering again.
>> 
>> 
>>> It matters little
>>> that there has been a "healthy" ecosystem of 200+ construction
>>> companies over the last 40 years, if 90% of them have been owned by
>>> the same 4 people or families.
>> 
>> hehe. yes.
>> Note that there is a wealth of information (social graph) that could be expressed just by analyzing the newspaper data (RDF graphs?). Just for the fun of it, that could be nice. On the other hand I always wonder about the danger of doing so when living at the same place than the said social graph. :)
>> 
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