[CivicAccess-discuss] CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16

Tue Jul 22 06:49:56 AEST 2014

I think that if someone is selected from Canada, it is important that they
view themselves as a representative of civil society globally, but also
Canadian civil society. It is critical that that individual take the time
and initiative to inform and engage Canadian CSOs on the OGP process, key
decisions etc. It would be interesting to know how each individual plans to
undertake that engagement? Perhaps this is something we can ask them.

I know that within the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative CSO
board reps host calls to brief CSOs and get feedback before board meeting,
but particularly board meetings where important decisions will be taken, but
also they will provide CSOs with a post-board meeting update. This
engagement is regionally focused, with the North American CSO board rep
engaging North American CSOs. This allows CSOs to engage with government
board reps after/in advance of meetings to try and influence their positions
on key issues of importance to CSOs. I meet regularly with the Canadian
representative to the EITI board.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering
      committee (Gerry Tychon)
   2. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering
      committee (Michael Lenczner)
   3. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for	the OGP steering
      committee (James McKinney)

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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:26:51 -0600
From: Gerry Tychon <gerry at tychon.ca>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:37:28 -0400
From: Michael Lenczner <michael at ajah.ca>
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Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates
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Michael Lenczner
CEO, Ajah
http://www.ajah.ca
514-708-5112

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <tlauriau at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation.
>
> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only 
> and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of 
> view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly.
>
> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, 
> private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional 
> meetings in Dublin.
>

Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years as a
municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within municipal gov
(an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an ideal candidate to
represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he is nominated - just based
on what I know of his understanding of open gov and open data.

>
> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open 
> data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open 
> data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those
waters.
> It would also be great to have someone who is considered a 
> representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand 
> behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also 
> sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their
concerns forward.
>
> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on 
> Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some 
> consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal 
> in terms of consultation at best.
>

It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the
old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new side
of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight standards,
XML/APIs/etc.)  We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate.

> Cheers
> t
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <michael at ajah.ca> wrote:
>
>> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the 
>> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more 
>> on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url
below).
>>
>> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is 
>> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the 
>> Canadians make the cut, though.
>>
>> Chris Moore
>> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton)
>>
>> Toby Mendel
>> (Centre for Law & Democracy)
>>
>> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear).
>> Reboot
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste
>> ering-committee/
>>
>>
>> Michael Lenczner
>> CEO, Ajah
>> http://www.ajah.ca
>> 514-708-5112
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:25 -0400
From: James McKinney <james at opennorth.ca>
To: gerry at tychon.ca, civicaccess discuss
	<civicaccess-discuss at civicaccess.ca>
Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates
	for	the OGP steering committee
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On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gerry Tychon <gerry at tychon.ca> wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance but how do candidates actually become candidates. 

Join the OGP Civil Society mailing list for all updates:
https://dgroups.org/hivos/ogp

The post was re-published on several other lists including CivicAccess on
April 25 by Harvey Low.

Nominations were open from April 25 to June 15.

I believe all were self-nominations, based on the submissions.

James

> ... ggt
> 
> On 21/07/2014 5:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation.

>> 
>> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only
and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of view
forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly.  
>> 
>> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, private
sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional meetings in
Dublin.
>> 
>> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open
data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open data
app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters.
It would also be great to have someone who is considered a representative,
someone civil society has nominated or who can stand behind, who has a
national understanding of the issues but also sub-national and who may
consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward.
>> 
>> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on Social
Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some consultations
by conference call and email, but even that was minimal in terms of
consultation at best.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> t
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <michael at ajah.ca>
wrote:
>> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the OGP
Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more on that
site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url below).
>> 
>> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is already
decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the Canadians make the
cut, though.
>> 
>> Chris Moore
>> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton)
>> 
>> Toby Mendel
>> (Centre for Law & Democracy)
>> 
>> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear).
>> Reboot
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste
>> ering-committee/
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Lenczner
>> CEO, Ajah
>> http://www.ajah.ca
>> 514-708-5112
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>> CivicAccess-discuss at civicaccess.ca
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Tracey P. Lauriault
>> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/
>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
>> http://datalibre.ca/
>> 
>> 
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