[CivicAccess-discuss] CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16

Tracey P. Lauriault tlauriau at gmail.com
Tue Jul 22 08:55:18 AEST 2014 

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On Monday, July 21, 2014, Claire Woodside <cwoodside at pwyp.ca> wrote:

> I think that if someone is selected from Canada, it is important that they
> view themselves as a representative of civil society globally, but also
> Canadian civil society. It is critical that that individual take the time
> and initiative to inform and engage Canadian CSOs on the OGP process, key
> decisions etc. It would be interesting to know how each individual plans to
> undertake that engagement? Perhaps this is something we can ask them.


I like your thinking here Claire! So far those who have put their names
forward have done no outreach.

>
> I know that within the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative CSO
> board reps host calls to brief CSOs and get feedback before board meeting,
> but particularly board meetings where important decisions will be taken,
> but
> also they will provide CSOs with a post-board meeting update. This
> engagement is regionally focused, with the North American CSO board rep
> engaging North American CSOs. This allows CSOs to engage with government
> board reps after/in advance of meetings to try and influence their
> positions
> on key issues of importance to CSOs. I meet regularly with the Canadian
> representative to the EITI board.


I guess the difference in the EITI CSO case is an organiZation with a
mandate and resources to so this work within a community of practice that
shares a thematic shared interest. There is no organization so far in
Canada that has the mandate to do this on the opengov and open data file.

Cheers
T

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>    1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering
>       committee (Gerry Tychon)
>    2. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering
>       committee (Michael Lenczner)
>    3. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for       the OGP steering
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> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:26:51 -0600
> From: Gerry Tychon <gerry at tychon.ca <javascript:;>>
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> Michael Lenczner
> CEO, Ajah
> http://www.ajah.ca
> 514-708-5112
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> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <tlauriau at gmail.com
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> wrote:
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> > It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation.
> >
> > Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only
> > and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of
> > view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly.
> >
> > Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society,
> > private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional
> > meetings in Dublin.
> >
>
> Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years as a
> municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within municipal gov
> (an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an ideal candidate to
> represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he is nominated - just
> based
> on what I know of his understanding of open gov and open data.
>
> >
> > We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open
> > data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open
> > data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those
> waters.
> > It would also be great to have someone who is considered a
> > representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand
> > behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also
> > sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their
> concerns forward.
> >
> > We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on
> > Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some
> > consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal
> > in terms of consultation at best.
> >
>
> It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the
> old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new side
> of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight standards,
> XML/APIs/etc.)  We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate.
>
>
> > Cheers
> > t
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <michael at ajah.ca
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the
> >> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more
> >> on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url
> below).
> >>
> >> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is
> >> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the
> >> Canadians make the cut, though.
> >>
> >> Chris Moore
> >> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton)
> >>
> >> Toby Mendel
> >> (Centre for Law & Democracy)
> >>
> >> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear).
> >> Reboot
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste
> >> ering-committee/
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Lenczner
> >> CEO, Ajah
> >> http://www.ajah.ca
> >> 514-708-5112
> >>
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> On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gerry Tychon <gerry at tychon.ca <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
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> > Pardon my ignorance but how do candidates actually become candidates.
>
> Join the OGP Civil Society mailing list for all updates:
> https://dgroups.org/hivos/ogp
>
> The post was re-published on several other lists including CivicAccess on
> April 25 by Harvey Low.
>
> Nominations were open from April 25 to June 15.
>
> I believe all were self-nominations, based on the submissions.
>
> James
>
>
> > ... ggt
> >
> > On 21/07/2014 5:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
> >> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society
> representation.
>
> >>
> >> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only
> and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of view
> forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly.
> >>
> >> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, private
> sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional meetings in
> Dublin.
> >>
> >> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open
> data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open data
> app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters.
> It would also be great to have someone who is considered a representative,
> someone civil society has nominated or who can stand behind, who has a
> national understanding of the issues but also sub-national and who may
> consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward.
> >>
> >> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on Social
> Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some consultations
> by conference call and email, but even that was minimal in terms of
> consultation at best.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> t
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <michael at ajah.ca
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the OGP
> Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more on that
> site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url below).
> >>
> >> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is already
> decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the Canadians make the
> cut, though.
> >>
> >> Chris Moore
> >> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton)
> >>
> >> Toby Mendel
> >> (Centre for Law & Democracy)
> >>
> >> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear).
> >> Reboot
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste
> >> ering-committee/
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Lenczner
> >> CEO, Ajah
> >> http://www.ajah.ca
> >> 514-708-5112
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> >> CivicAccess-discuss at civicaccess.ca <javascript:;>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tracey P. Lauriault
> >> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/
> >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
> >> http://datalibre.ca/
> >>
> >>
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